Martin Willis, joined by UFO Jack, speaks with author Mike Fiorito about the intriguing relationship between music, consciousness, and the unknown. The conversation explores the idea that sound and music may function as a tuning mechanism for the mind, shaping perception and opening pathways to deeper states of awareness. Drawing on examples from experimental and electronic music, the discussion looks at how sound can communicate beyond language and influence human consciousness in unexpected ways. The interview also touches on visionary figures such as Sun Ra and his concept of tone science, linking music with cosmic exploration, as well as the connection between sound, imaginal experiences, and anomalous phenomena. Together they consider whether music might serve as a bridge between inner consciousness and the wider mysteries of the universe.

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