Asked if he still felt like the U.S. was dealing with a “huge, huge dumb problem,” as he’d said back in 2019, the politically minded Hollywood veteran explained why he thought little has changed.

“We need to get over our infatuation with the outsider, with the plainspoken person that you want to have a beer with,” he said.

Screenwriter Aaron Sorkin, here in April, unpacked Americans’ desire for politicians to act like average Joes in an interview with Esquire.

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Citing his own work, Sorkin said, “The characters I write are all smarter than I am. I did not blaze any trails as a scholar. People who are smarter than I am don’t make me feel bad about myself, they don’t make me feel inferior. And certainly a president — I need the president to be smarter than I am.”

Sorkin added that, in his eyes, “there are millions upon millions of voters who seem to have a mass debilitating inferiority complex and feel like a smart president, Obama for instance, is looking down his nose at everyone else, or he’s a Poindexter, or he’s not a real man.”

“Right. He eats arugula,” interviewer Michael Sebastian cracked, harking back to one of the trifling complaints conservatives had about President Barack Obama’s alleged elitism.

“We got to knock that off,” Sorkin said. “There has been a glamorization of dumbness.”

Sorkin didn’t mention any names, but he has previously shared some choice words about President Donald Trump.

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Explaining why he had no interest in putting a Trump-esque character in the reboot of “The West Wing,” Sorkin called the Republican president “a really dumb guy with an observable psychiatric disorder.”