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The BAASS Tic Tac analysis
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Source: https://x.com/IWANTTOKNOWUK/status/1929069279904755717
A brief scan indicates an SCU style "run the numbers based on a story" type paper seemingly designed to show the people at BAASS can do maths.
There's a also a fun Tedesco style rundown of technology they used taxpayers money to acquire.
Who knows, a more thorough reading might be useful.
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According to Senior Chief Blila, the AA V s would descend from a very high altitude into the scan volume of the AN/SPY -1 at a high velocity
Could this be
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-blila/
A new name?
This report is interesting, the narrative for Nimitz is a bit more detailed from what I think has previously emerged.
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On 14 November after again detecting the AA V, the USS Princeton took the opportunity of having a flight oftwo F/A-18Fs returning from a training mission to further investigate the AAV. The USS Princeton took over control of the F/A-18s from the E-2C Airborne Early Warning aircraft and vectored in the F/A-18s for intercept leading to visual contact approximately one mile away from the AA V, which was reported to be "an elongated egg or a 'Tic Tac' shape with a discernable midline horizontal axis." It was "solid white, smooth, with no edges. It was "uniformly colored with no nacelles, pylons, or wings." It was approximately 46 feet in length. The F/A-18Fs radar could not obtain a 'lock' on the AAV; however it could be tracked while stationary and at slower speeds with the Forward Looking Infrared (FLIR)
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Man there are maps for where the Kurth intercept apparently happened..
CAPT David Kirk, confirmed that there was no anomalous undersea activity during this period. There was a live fire exercise conducted by the USS Louisville during the period of and in the vicinity of the AA V sightings;
Basically, they assumed this:
and then threw the physics modeling software ANSYS at it.
So they studied a radar glitch as if it was a physical object.
The report is not redacted, and reveals the name of CDR David "Sex" Fravor's WO.
Interesting. Right from the opening summery, there is no attempt to find an explanation for anything, rather UAP are Real and need to be studied:
Note, 15 years later and the UAPDF and others are still stressing all the dangers presented by UAP:
And the summery ends with a corporate goal statement about what BAASS was doing and wanted to be. None of realized:
Page 18-19 lists BAASS's massive array of technology and hardware making them able to investigate UAP better than any other group. Basically, they have some cameras and telescopes. And a Garmin.
They also have the proprietary CAPELLA database system, developed by Vallee and Davis:
So, the paranormal effects of a UAP report can be considered.
As for the TicTac incident, the report talks about radar returns indicating it was operating like a ballistic missile. However, Chief Blila says the radar was in aircraft mode, so when the TicTac would show up it was often filter out to eliminate clutter "as any other false target is handled":
So, why isn't it a false target?
I guess indicative of this report, when Kurth describes seeing a disturbance in the water that then dissipates, there isn't even a discussion about possible mundane explanations, rather it jumps right to "cloaked" aliens:
As for the TicTac incident, the report talks about radar returns indicating it was operating like a ballistic missile. However, Chief Blila says the radar was in aircraft mode, so when the TicTac would show up it was often filter out to eliminate clutter "as any other false target is handled":
"ballistic" means no acceleration, so these targets would not maneouver like an aircraft, a guided rocket, a drone, or a flying saucer would.
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On 14 November after again detecting the AA V, the USS Princeton took the opportunity of having a flight oftwo F/A-18Fs returning from a training mission to further investigate the AAV. The USS Princeton took over control of the F/A-18s from the E-2C Airborne Early Warning aircraft and vectored in the F/A-18s for intercept leading to visual contact approximately one mile away from the AA V, which was reported to be "an elongated egg or a 'Tic Tac' shape with a discernable midline horizontal axis." It was "solid white, smooth, with no edges. It was "uniformly colored with no nacelles, pylons, or wings." It was approximately 46 feet in length. The F/A-18Fs radar could not obtain a 'lock' on the AAV; however it could be tracked while stationary and at slower speeds with the Forward Looking Infrared (FLIR)
Emphasis added.
So are we losing the two cute little pitot tubes or fins or whatever? They've pretty much become an iconic part of the "tic-tac" meme/design.
PDF metadata
2015 is still before AATIP went public.
The Adobe Paper Capture Plug-In converts scanned images into an actual text PDF, i.e. it does OCR. So the year 2015 may simply denote when the original document was scanned and converted. (If the Metadata wasn't tampered with.)
A successful analysis of a USO was conducted using a full harmonic acoustics simulation. The plots of the real and imaginary values showed good agreement with the expected theoretical solutions. It may be concluded from the contour plots and graphs that the varying frequencies produce acoustics pressures far out from the actual source and decline in an inverse square law relationship. In the future, ships and submarines could possibly detect these pressure disturbances and a frequency of the mode of operation could be calculated with a known distance from the vessel.
From 4.2.1.1, p82 of the Tic Tac Report. Someone should telegraph the Navy and let them know!
This report repeats this error that we've heard before, that elevation angle is -5°. It's 5° on the screen. Not sure how they see otherwise, it's blurry, but still.
This report repeats this error that we've heard before, that elevation angle is -5°. It's 5° on the screen. Not sure how they see otherwise, it's blurry, but still.
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According to LT Underwood, "the target was best guess co-altitude or a few thousand feet below," estimating the object to be between 15-20 thousand feet.
Although Underwood has cast doubt on this section of the report (that has appeared elsewhere)
There's also this different preliminary account, in the BAASS 2009 report, from Douglas Kurth
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The following preliminary report of unusual incidents in late 2004 is
summarized by BAASS Lead Program Manager, Douglas Kurth who was
Commanding Officer of VMFA-232 at the time of the incident. This incident is
considered a sentinel case for BAASS in that it directly intersects national security
issues; the case is being exhaustively and aggressively investigated by a team of
BAASS collaborators, located on the East Coast. A full report on this investigation
will be forthcoming.
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At that time, another two-ship of F/A-18Fs was vectored to investigate the
unidentified object since they were now geographically closer than CDR Fravor's
flight. LT Chad Underwood was one of the aircrew in the F/A-18Fs that were
vectored toward the object. I am not aware whether LT Underwood's flight was
being controlled from a shipboard controller or an airborne controller. LT
Underwood was able to gain a radar contact of the unidentified object with his
APG-73 in search (range is unknown by me or CDR Fravor). According to CDR
Fravor, once LT Underwood commanded the radar to single target track the
object, the radar displayed jamming indications and was unable to maintain track.
[Jamming indications observed are above the classification of this document.]
However, LT Underwood was able to gain a track of the object with the Advanced
Targeting Forward Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) sensor. As they flew toward the
object, LT Underwood's aircraft maintained ATFLIR track of the object for 2-3
minutes and recorded the ATFLIR display. Prior to visually observing the object,
the ATFLIR broke track, and the object was not observed by any additional aircraft
sensors.
From BAASS;
Prior to visually observing the object, the ATFLIR broke track, and the object was not observed by any additional aircraft sensors.
A fancy way of saying 'Underwood didn't see it visually'.
A fancy way of saying 'Underwood didn't see it visually'.
Also that there was no sudden acceleration at the end of the video, it just drifted away after losing the lock.
They move instantly like ping pong balls the way the tic tac was described.
Instantly? I see nothing strange in the video (not that I checked the whole 5:21... care to add a timestamp for the more 'instant' movement you see?)
Could this tech have advanced to have been a test? They move instantly like ping pong balls the way the tic tac was described.
it's a 12 inch rocket
please adjust your intuition to that size
we're getting into a territory where people think bugs are UFOs because they zig-zag around in a way that is impossible for larger craft, which they think it is.
It is also not moving very far, and not meant to move in atmosphere.
Research SDI to learn what became of the tech.
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