I was an avid "hopeful" regarding the UFO/UAP subject.
I was always interested to see what new videos, pictures came up each day on reddit, youtube, but I have found "intelligent disclosure" to not really exist.
Even on the sites where the host or OP on reddit claims to be a skeptic, there is always an assumption that gets treated as fact to carry the conversation forward.

I have had issues with those assumptions, where most people seem to not want to dwell on them and just move along for the ride.

I have been reading different posts on here for the past 2 days, and though I never thought I would lean heavily on the debunking side of things, I see now how necessary it is.

If the "evidence" being presented each day wasn't misused, misrepresented, and then monetized, there might be room for intelligent and fair discourse. I have learned unfortunately, that by the time it gets posted to reddit or youtube, it's most likely not what is claimed due to the nature of both reddit and youtube.

Then...add in the government, the military, the grifters and.....you end up here. I dig it. I never thought I would, as "debunkers" are seen as close minded, hateful people, according to reddit ufo sites, and many ufo believers on youtube.

Glad to be here, feels a bit more real than the noise out there.